Belgian Malinois Stud Dog Norwich Dog Training School

The sad truth
This dog is featured in the National News paper, The Guardian, just follow the link
Sadly, there are far too many poorly bred, non-pedigree, non-KC registered, non-health tested, often wimpy (no substance), so-called Belgian Malinois (BSD) that fail to conform to the breed standard being bred by irresponsible dealers in the UK which are then sold on to unsuitable owners. As countless individuals attempt to cash in on the recent media infamy this breed has attracted on YouTube and in films etc. So many people buy a pseudo Malinois and it’s only when then get the dogs DNA results back, they discover that they’ve paid a lot of money for a mongrel! It’s a bit like buying ‘Rang Rover’ and then finding out that you have in fact purchased a go-cart. Such purchases should really be taken up under the Sale of Goods Act (Consumer Rights Act).
These ‘dealers’ do not have the interests of the breed at heart, since their sole interest is to make some quick cash at the detriment of the breed, and many ‘breeders’ will have only owned these ‘types’ for a short time frame and will ultimately go onto another breed, once the popularity craze subsides – as all enthusiasts can see, the damage done will decimate the breed for generations to come.
These dealers often profess to be experts, despite having little knowledge, experience, love or care for the breed. With countless parties crossing so-called Malinois with anything and everything to make a few quid; creating genetic monsters for unsuspecting and ill informed people to purchase. These unfortunate animals, so often end up at rescue centres or being put to sleep. Far too often, dogs bred by ‘bad people’ for the wrong reasons and being sold onto the irresponsible people which is the major reason, why it is being muted by some that it is about time the Government started carefully looking at BSD ownership in the UK. Time and time again, we are seeing in the media, reports of so-called Malinois biting and even killing family members and others. The Belgian Malinois was never developed to be a ‘pet or status breed’ (these are titles that don’t suit him well). He was developed to be an honest and beautiful WORKING animal – and this should never be forgotten. But sadly the BSD is now following the path of many other once useful breeds such as the GSD, Rottweiler, Dobermann – so very few good dogs remain.
Selectively bred as working dogs
The ‘God Father’ of the Breed ‘Louis Huyghebaert’ (1894) was passionate and promoted that only dogs that were both beautiful with real working ability should be bred from. What we’re seeing today, especially in the UK is the opposite – dogs that are not beautiful and are devoid of any real working ability are being bred from at a colossal rate. Especially concerning, and something that can only be described as cruel is the fact that, many of the animals being pumped out by unscrupulous “breeders” are riddled with health problems and temperament issues – as they don’t come from health tested or character tested parents. These dogs are likely to drain their owners emotionally and financially. For some guidance, please read our article ‘Guide to buying a dog’ and just to reiterate – True Belgian Malinois were selectively bred and developed to be WORKING dogs – not pets or yard dogs!
You don’t have to be Einstein to realise that ‘a Poorly bred dog crossed with a Poorly bred dog’ will rarely produce a good dog – the genes aren’t there!
Around 27 or so years ago, I met and had a long discussion with a well known breeder of pedigree working line BSDs in Belgium, who said that in his opinion the Malinois would be ruined in two years, due to the ‘wrong people’ breeding poor dogs for profit. Even further back than this, a good friend and breeder of working dogs, said that as soon as the Belgian Shepherd leaves Belgium and is bred by people that do not uphold the culture of the breed from its Country of origin, said it will be destroyed – and this is exactly what is happening.
Is your bitch worth breeding from
If you are someone who dearly loves and cares for the breed and has its future improvement at heart – we have available at selected stud, a dog that ticks so many boxes. But there is a caveat – if you are thinking about breeding your bitch – your dog must be worthy of our dog’s services, and you need to be an upstanding individual – not a puppy farmer… Otherwise we are not interested.
Our boy
We are proud to introduce our beloved boy, ‘the dog the bitches are talking about’:
Jotunheim Butch Cassidy Von Zoltanika BH AD IGP 1 IGP 2 KC stud book qualified, fully health tested.
True Belgian Malinois
Not only is Butch one the largest, fittest, strongest, healthiest and most handsome pure bred Belgian Malinois you are likely to see – he has won classes at Championship shows winning his way into the KC stud book. He’s also a qualified, and very powerful working dog. Bred by one of the very finest breeders from a very long line of health tested and proven working dogs – from the very best European working lines. He is most certainly NOT a mixed breed Malinois from dubious BRN heritage.
His father besides being a stunning looking dog was one of the very top French Mondioring competitors. A very large and powerful male with a reputation for knocking over even the most experienced helpers. His brother and nephew are likewise successfully competing in Mondioring with his niece in IGP.
We are enthusiasts not breeders, and have purposely turned down many stud enquires from people who have wanted to use him for three main reasons: (1) At the time we considered him too young (2) their bitches where of insufficient quality and (3) their owners wanted to breed dogs for all the wrong reasons.
We can afford to be fussy as (i) We don’t breed dogs for money. Our dog is our passion, not our source of income and (ii) We are firm believers of waiting for a dog to mature until he is at least 6 years old to allow sufficient time to pass to reveal any potential defects in Character, Temperament or Health Issues. Being responsible, we are more than conscious that any genetic defects can so easily be passed onto future generations, and must be avoided at all costs – if the breed is to be improved. We are pleased to report that as far as humanely possible, and within the realms of current science there are no such defects with our boy.
Our boy has proven himself in the following key areas: Beauty; Brains (working ability); Temperament, Health and Genetics.
Beauty
Butch is quite unlike the other Belgian Malinois you will see on the UK show circuit, and while he has been shown only and handful of times (all at Championship Shows) – 1st LKA, 3rd Crufts 2022; 2nd Crufts 2025; won Open class at two Belgian Shepherd Championship shows under European BSD breed specialists – being rated ‘very good’ winning him recognition and a place in the KC stud book. At all of the shows he has entered – he was the largest and most powerful male by far. We don’t seriously campaign our dog, as we neither have the time or enthusiasm for the show scene and our boy, being a true working dog finds the show scene a tad boring.
Temperament and working ability
Butch has a temperament that is second to none – social in every environment and with no hint of nerves or nervous aggression. A very confident and powerful male, who like his father has bowled over many helpers during protection training, and when carrying out this type of work, we have to be selective in both how, and with whom we train to avoid potential helper injury – and importantly injury to our boy, should the helper not be fit, strong, fast or co-ordinated enough to work him safely. In training, people have been accidently injured and carted off to A & E – so we have to be very careful, as he is a big, fit, fast and powerful lad.
He has strong powerful grips and a powerhouse stature that helpers find difficult to manage and he enjoys throwing people around using his awesome strength and attitude. But once the combat is over, he quickly switches off and becomes social again – a very balanced dog indeed.
His basic stats, he’s an easy 28 inches at the shoulder, weighs in at a lean 40 Kg. He could easily carry more weight, but we take pride in keeping him fit and trim.
Back in 2007 with my previous dog Jotunheim Unit Von Zoltanika BH Sch I Sch II Sch III – we were the first ever team to represent the UK in the World BSD Schutzhund / IPO / IGP championships and first ever non-GSD team to represent the UK at the World FCI Schutzhund / IPO/ IGP Championships, besides being the first BSD team to enter the NASDU security trials which we should have easily won, except for a small technical issue (the security guards moaned that I wasn’t a ‘security guard’, and had the rules changed, not appreciating the competition – so much for sports eh…!). So back then we were something of a trail blazer when it came to working BSDs. This is something I am both proud of and ashamed of at the same time. Proud for the reasons given, but ashamed as I believe it encouraged many people to buy and breed BSDs within the security industry, and similar who often have little love and dedication for the breed, just seeing it a meal ticket which has in turn attracted many of the wrong types to the breed. Individuals who think they are macho or have little respect for the breed. People who breed poor quality animals to make easy money.
Having been the first BSD owner / handler to represent the UK at the World Championships in this particular sport – I’m not so hungry for competition these days; I simply do it simply to give my training some focus – but to be honest, throughout my 49 years of owing, training, working and showing working dogs – I have never sought fame, otherwise I would be pushing out videos on YouTube, facebook, Tikok and similar. My passion has always been the love, companionship, friendship and fun I get from my dogs. I would rather do things quietly out of the limelight; rather than constantly seeking media attention. My Ego doesn’t need it. It’s just that every once in a while‘ to prove to myself, that choose to walk the talk’. For me, the fun is getting out there and training my dog which I find rewarding. Not competing regularly.
Which brings me back to my boy – to date he has competed in three IGP (Internationale Gebrauchshund Prufung) surveys and at his first outing in 2022 achieved his Beglithund (BH) (companion test) and AD surveys (endurance test) and in 2023 gained his IGP 1 and 2025 IGP 2 qualification (tracking, obedience and protection). We will do other trials in the future, but like I said, I don’t particularly enjoy trials and find it so difficult to fit in with all of my other commitments.
Health Statistics and Genetics
Our boy is from a long line of KC / FCI registered, pedigree and health tested dogs, and we are pleased to report:
- HD score 4:4
- Elbows 0:0
- Eye tested: Clear of any issues
DNA and Health Tested under what is internationally regarded to be the best scheme available – ‘The Wisdom Panel’. His excellent results as follows:
100% Belgian Malinois (not a mixed breed)
Short coat
Fawn with mask
Prick ears
Within his genetic weight range
Butch has been tested for 263 genetic disorders and thankfully no disorder was found. Of special note to BSD fanciers is that Butch is clear of Cardiomyopathy and Juvenile Mortality; CNS Atrophy with Cerebellar Ataxia; Hereditary Ataxia; Spongy Degeneration with Cerebellar Ataxia; Haemophilia all of which are regularly being found in BSDs.
The Package
I have been a BSD fancier for over 43 years, and owner for well over 21 years. Over this time, I have seen a great number of BSDs at home and overseas and very few come even close to this wonderful boy I have the pleasure of owning. All in all, Butch is arguably one the most beautiful Malinois you are ever likely to see. A superbly powerful working dog with temperament and personality to die for (he is a little cheeky, but it’s a personality trait I wouldn’t want to change, as it makes me smile. Clockwork automatons that are constantly trained with e-collars is not our game). He ticks all the boxes from a health, beauty, working perspective – a very large and powerful working dog with excellent bone, substance, dentition, pigment etc that can more than hold his own in the show ring or on the working field. We firmly believe ‘Butch’ is what Louis Huyghebaert was after in his vision of what the Belgian Malinois should be – beauty with brains!
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We are not great fans of ‘dog dealers’ and those who trying to make big business out of dog training for a number of reasons:
A great friend of mine once coined the phrase ‘A little knowledge is a dangerous thing’….
Over the years I have been hugely indebted to some great friends – who whether they like it or not, have surreptitiously influenced me over the years in both the way that I think and to a large part; the way that I train. None have had a greater overall influence on me than Doris Ware, whose energy and passion for all things canine, I still hold dear and when I fondly recollect the countless memories of her from the depths of my mind, always brings a smile to my face.
Doris was very well-known canine personality locally, she was responsible for organising, running, judging countless Dog Shows in the Norfolk area, and raising many thousands for Charity, besides being a well-known trainer at several clubs for both obedience and ring craft. Amongst her busy schedule, she organised trips abroad for ‘us locals’ to some of the largest European and World dogs shows to widen our perspectives. Little did she know then, but Doris steered my canine career (then just a hobby) to where it is today. Doris was a larger-than-life character who helped so many people on their canine journey.
To say the least, Doris was a very bright cookie and formulated so may ‘sayings’ that she could athletically draw upon to trip up any individual, who was stupid enough to challenge her. Which thankfully didn’t happen very often for it was plain to see – she had a lifetime of skills and experiences that she could draw on to handle every situation. Perhaps the most pertinent proverb I can remember coming from Doris’s lips was the phrase ‘a little knowledge is a dangerous thing’ (Doris Ware circa 1980). This is something I’ve learned to appreciate, more and more these days, as the ‘Canine World’ is now resonate with individuals who have only been around a short while, having completed an online course or having visited a trainer or two and now think they can cash in on dogs as a means to make a living. Most of these have dreams of making ‘big money’, while they often have little empathy or understanding of dogs themselves.
In today’s ‘dog eat dog’ World, so many people want everything ‘right here, right now’ without taking the time to acquire the skills and knowledge; that the majority of enthusiasts normally gain overtime and through experience. These days it seems, so many people are incapable of independent thought or have the desire to gain real-world experience. Thinking that knowledge should be handed to them on a plate, through simply reading a few ‘how to books’; shadowing a trainer or two or even following the more underhand method of seeking help with their own dog, while having aspirations to simply to copy and sell on. Perhaps not surprising these days is the number of budding trainers that are too lazy for this and follow the numerous online training platforms that are gaining popularity. Whereby the owner(s) of the platform has seen a the real business opportunity to make some big bucks, and offers online crash courses. Once completed, the would-be trainer can then naively reach for the sky, as they embark on a career in dog training, putting themselves forward as being an expert. Sadly, in this technological area, so more of the newer trainers seem to be armed with little more than an electronic collar and think they have this ‘training thing’ all wrapped up, as they them set themselves up exploit social media for business.
Many of these technology reliant trainers, seem to be totally oblivious to the fact that within the UK, there are powerful lobbyist groups who have made it their objective to outlaw the technology (already banned in Wales), and almost succeeded in February 2024. But they haven’t given up, and will go on until success is finally achieved. While there is an argument for the technology to be used as last resort for some situations, after all else has failed. There is a growing collegiate of trainers, who favour the technology as there go to resource, their first strategy as being a quick and easy route to follow (for themselves), employing the technology for even the simplest of tasks and damming the consequences should they get it wrong, since they can always get another dog. The more adherent e-collar trainers will spend thousands on the most expensive covert technology, to hide the fact that they’re reliant on e-collars. Often using wide, bright and colourful collars to distract and disguise the technology hiding beneath. Even using overt finger controllers to conceal the remote-control handsets. Some systems have phone apps can be used remotely change the collar from vibrate to stim (shock).
While most seasoned trainers, understand what the technology can be used for – they resist using it, except as a last resource. Considering the technology to be a form of ‘cheating’ and accepting that most dogs are trained for fun and as a hobby. So have more empathy for their, animals rather than these quick fix trainers. To the educated, so many animals trained this way, lose the ‘natural look’ of a working animal and appear almost automatonlike. Just check out YouTube and you will see countless examples. But as we’ve allured to – arguably the technology has it is place as a last resort for some dogs under certain circumstances (e.g. livestock killers), but really not for those who train for ‘fun’ or ‘sport’.
Easy money
I’m a firm believer that the driver for quick financial success is down to the ease and speed with which some ‘media influencers’ seem to get rich quick – almost overnight or so it seems, when comparing it to the long-term commitment and hard graft the vast majority of us undergo with more ‘normal’ jobs. But then again, let’s face it; most people don’t have the aspirations or the need and greed for a brand-new Roller, they are quite content with their lot or have not having been fortunate enough to win the lottery or have wealthy parents to grease the wheels. For as they say, ‘money goes to money’.
As I’m sure you’re already aware, YouTube, Facebook and the other portals, directly and indirectly encourages ‘budding influencers’ to place copious amounts video on their platforms, covering just about any topic you can imagine from the useful to the obscure to even the dam right stupid. Many subjects repeated again and again, by countless ‘influencers’ that are all to often so similar, that there’s hardly a cigarette paper’s difference between them. All this is done in an effort to reach the holy grail of the coveted ‘viral’ viewing to enabling the ‘influencer’ to claim ‘celebrity’, and to then sit back and watch the money come flooding in.
If you’ve been around for as long as me, you cannot but notice that in recent years, the ‘dog industry’ has become more commercial than ever. Whether it’s dog food, merchandise, veterinary care, grooming services, training or breeding. Unfortunately, countless numbers of dogs have suffered in its wake at an alarming rate. All one has to do is to look the way vet fees have soared in recent times or consider the empirical evidence in relation to ‘XL Bully’ mania that is tantamount of what can so easily go horribly wrong, when unscrupulous people create a demand for an animal, that sensibly doesn’t have a rightful place in today’s society. As very few sensible people, would ever want a fighting dog to be sitting in their living room, playing in front of the fire with their young children. Long gone are the days of fighting with dogs which was outlawed in 1835, but is still sadly still out ‘underground’ by the criminal fraternity. So it beggar’s belief, why thousands of ‘pet owners’ would really want a dog with a gladiator heritage. But as everyone knows, the UK is full of people that want the latest fashion accessory or want a dog they can intimidate others with, craving an animal to make them ‘look hard’ or feed their ego. And there will always be others, who want to try and prove to themselves or others, that there’s no such thing as a bad dog, and while for the the majority this will be correct. It doesn’t get away from the fact that large number of the dogs will fall into the wrong hands – people who acquire the animals for the reasons given, and this is where it all goes horribly wrong with tragic consequences.
Popularity Destroys
History, again and again, repeats itself with the ‘herd instinct’ of the masses causing untold damage to countless once useful breeds, as they become ‘fashionable’ for all the wrong reasons. All one has to do is look at the history of the German Shepherd, Dobermann, Rottweiler and the on-going saga with XL bully, now that the commercial bubble has burst. Where uncountable, irresponsible dealers jumped onto the commercial ‘band wagon’ to sell poorly bred animals to thousands of people. Only to see it go full circle now, with the dealers becoming desperate to dispose of their ‘stock’ by whatever means, as their ‘cash cow’ has now died. The ‘breeds’ brief history has been well documented, having been infiltrated by organised criminals juxtaposed with the complications this attracts. Currently these unscrupulous dealers are looking for the next big thing, as ‘influencers’ talk up the next big craze from which they can profit. Whether it’s the Cane Corso; Dutch, Belgian Shepherd; Chinese Red Dog; Boerboel or any of their respective mixes or some newly created type being given a ‘designer name’ in an attempt to lure purchasers, whether it’s Bandogs, Alaunts or Canis Panthers and the alike, as the term mongrel or Heinz 57 has lost favour with the buying public. As potential buyers would undoubtedly shy away from paying vast sums for such dogs described as such, they require a pseudo name to conjure up an image to hood wink them to desire.
This calculated marketing is often carried out by deceitful individuals, whose dogs are often no more than genetic Canine Frankenstein’s riddled with character or health defects as very few dog dealers have doctorates in genetic engineering. Producing these animals without carrying out any recognised health checks on the parents or offspring. The sad fact of life is that most of these animals will end being sold or rescued by ‘typical’ families living in flats or houses with small gardens. Whose owners who will in the main, all to often fail to train and exercise their animals properly, and herein lies the caveat – the development of yet another ticking time bomb for the next canine disaster to keep the ‘authorities’ (police, hospitals, vets, media, insurers, lawyers and Government) busy for sometime time to come. Unless the Government brings in some proper licensing and controls of not only who breeds and owns these animals – and what they are used for, then these problems will continue to occur.
Commercial, Corporate, franchise dog trainers
The drive for quick and big profits is now spilling over to dog training. In years gone by, the budding trainers of tomorrow, spent years training dogs at clubs, entering competitions and learning from others before developing techniques of their own. Most had no real intention to use the skills they acquired to build up training businesses; this was done as a hobby, for fun, a sport or passion. What appears to be happening today and shows strong a correlations to the invention to the term ‘celebrity’ or ‘influencer’ generated through the portals of YouTube, Facebook TikTok, TV which has directly (and indirectly) caused a scramble for many people to want to become dog trainers – perceiving it as a way to achieve ‘fame and fortune’ rather than passion. What is being witnessed today is that so manly so-called trainers have become ‘dog dealers’, trying to make embarrassing amounts of cash for little effort. Selling ‘trained dogs’ to a public that cannot be bothered to put in the time or effort to acquire the animals they desire or to train them; both pets and working dogs.
Many are purchased to give their owners a certain amount of perceived kudos to boast to friends in the pub, that their dog has been trained for ‘this or that’ to swell the owners ego. Often these animals are cheap imports; dogs that have been trained or partly trained overseas by whatever means to give dealers a quick profit. Masses are animals failed to make the grade in their homeland for reasons of health, beauty or perceived working ability by their ‘original’ trainer or dealer, and so they’re quickly moved on. Dogs which were effectively ‘binned’ are sold onto dealers in the UK in a lucrative business. But unfortunately, many of these dealers have little compassion for their animals, viewing them as little more than disposable stock that can be bought and sold, much in the same way as farmers sending off their animals to market or abattoir. Since, once out of sight, they’re out of mind apart from the cash that remains in the dealer’s hand. To add a little clarity, during a related conversation with a good friend, he asked, ‘how much would you sell your dog for?’ to which I replied ‘he’s priceless’, his response was ‘that’s it, good dogs are rarely available; people will only sell dogs they don’t want’.
In relatively recent years, more and more ‘Dog Training Businesses’ have popped up selling dogs to all and sundry and to the highest bidder. Charging anything from a few hundred pounds to many thousands (if they can get it). Wealthy individuals, desperate to get the next thing, but often lacking the knowledge, skills, patience, time or effort will waft large sums of cash before these dealers’ eyes. Many who would have little hesitation in selling off a close family members, let alone a dog which is unlikely to get a second thought. These businesses often buy in large numbers from overseas with the hope of turning them around quickly for profit. Many have multiple trainers to help manage the countless dogs they seek to move on. Some of these businesses, as they need to make ‘big money’ to fund the ‘army’ of employees they need to pay, so typically seek additional income from boarding, daycare, puppies, residential training, grooming, exercise parks, equipment, vet care etc as they attempt to lure those preferring the ‘corporate dog businesses’ or the ‘one stop shop’, rather than using people who offer more specific services.
Countless people within the ‘industry’ are trying to corporatize dog training itself, by charging silly amounts of money for what is being offered. Whether selling on trained pet dogs, security dogs, gundogs etc and there are those that don’t have kennel facilities, who try to compete by offering services, whereby your dog lives with them in their home – but realistically it’s usually one of their ‘associates’, who will board your animal and spend a little time training it for a cool £1,500 or so a week. We don’t offer any of these services, and you may wish to read our blog on ‘Residential Dog Training’ for the reasons why.
With the proliferation of the internet, countless training associations have evolved offering budding trainers the ‘opportunity’ to follow one of their, usually online courses for a fee, and upon completion receive their accreditation. Some offer ‘associate’ memberships for which the ‘student’ pays for the privilege. Selected businesses offer mentoring services to help increase customer flow with online or telephone help, should the trainer be dumbfounded as to what to do next. Some training businesses, offer an almost off the shelf templates for websites with ‘photo bank’ images rather than ‘real client photos’; so their clients following their ideology’ can hit the ground running without having to think too much about what they offer. All in, it’s quite frightening, that so many people these days need so much hand holding, when it comes to training or running their businesses while they trade their services. Some trainers even appear to be operating under a type of franchise or at very least – plagiarising someone else.
Many of the businesses set themselves up as limited companies, as they try to get bigger. Which raises the question of who is really helping you to train your dog, the person before you, or someone else hidden out of view or a remote trainer?
At NDTS my aspiration to train dogs has never come from an ambition to make lots of money by ‘corporatizing our training services’. In my previous careers, I’d spent many years within the corporate sector, so I’m fully aware of its pitfalls and downsides especially in terms of the chains of communication, and the lack of importance for the individual which is why we prefer to offer a personal service. My hobby has always been dog training with a few occasional shows and competitions thrown in ‘to keep my eye in’ so to speak including Championship shows and World Competition; but for me, this is not my real goal, as ‘once you’ve done it, you’ve done it’ and anything else is a bit like ‘groundhog day’. This has overtime evolved to become Norwich Dog Training School, that was created from a desire and love for dogs over many years. The most important ‘thing’ for me is the enjoyment, fun, companionship and love dogs have brought to my life for well over 48 years. To typify, one of the best parts of canine companionship is exampled that recently when my wife went out for the evening with her friends, she left me and the ‘boys’ at home to do whatever we wanted. On went the TV, the dogs jumped onto the sofa and we had a boys night in watching ‘The Walking Dead’ (the wife hates it) with a pint of cider. This simple pleasure for ‘life really doesn’t get much better than that’, me and the boys chilling out in front of the box.
What we are seeing today within the ‘dog industry’ is that there’s thousands of people out there trying to get rich quick; not so much for the a love of dogs, its more about whether their dog happens to make them look good, and they’ll utilise almost any measure to achieve it – and woefully, if the ‘dog fails’ it goes. Just check out social media to see what we mean. As all too often the most important element is feeding the trainers Ego, enabling them to try and convince yet more people that they’re the best for whatever reason.
As the dog industry ‘corporatizes’ all we can say is ‘What ever happened to individuality?….’. since this is what Norwich Dog Training School aims to deliver.